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Recorder

There is a scene that happened in the first days of the month of August, that refers to the recorder. A man carried a recorder with batteries and recorded what the girls said in a trance in the Pines. I have the reference to this incident from Mr. José Salceda, from Aguilar de Campoo, who was a witness to what I tell here.

When they finished the vision they marched with the recorder so that the girls could hear it. Finishing what corresponded to the rapture, they took words from the girls in normal conversation and they told them to ask the Virgin to speak into the microphone so that the voice would be recorded.

While they were having this conversation, the girls entered into the vision suddenly. In this state they asked the Virgin to speak into the microphone so that her voice would be recorded.

When they finished the vision and went back to their homes in the company of their parents, the girls stayed there; it was enough. The recorder worked to show how the trance had been. Upon arriving at the girls’ sentences, in which they asked the Virgin to speak, “an unmistakable voice was heard.” These are textual words from Mr. José Salceda: “It was the sweetest voice that came from the apparatus saying: ‘No, I won’t speak.’”

The emotion was enormous and many people were crying and saying that this should be taken to the Pope. They played it again and in the middle of the emotion, when they arrived at the cited sentences, we did not hear anything.

They went down to Conchita’s house disconcerted. She had not participated in the mentioned vision but she’d heard what her companions had said. When they arrived at the cited sentences we heard the voice that said: “No, I will not speak.” Upon hearing it Conchita smiled and said she was very happy and that it was the Virgin’s voice. They listened to it again, but I don’t know if they heard it again.

Felix de Corta, S.J.

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The Calls

The phenomena of the calls or touches that begin the ecstasies, are given to the girls in the following way: generally we can say that they are always three calls:

― They can have them at the same time when they’re together.

― They can have time around the same time, but not exactly, when they’re together.

― They can have them at the same time when they’re separated.

― They can all have them, or only one girl, or two, or three, or all four.

In the calls they don’t hear words. They insist that they are within and do not have words. In the trance they hear syllabic words, including those whose meaning they do not know.

They don’t see anything in the calls; during the trance they see light, people, etc.

These are the three principle differences.

The meaning of the calls:

The word “call” has surged from the girls who say this:

“The Virgin hasn’t called me today.”

“Today she called me.”

“I have had one call, two, etc. They said goodbye: ‘Until tomorrow.’”

The third call represents a difference between the first two calls that begin it and end in ecstasy. It grows. The girls can warn that the third gives a certain margin of time, as they said on one occasion: “Father, you have time for one more lines.” I was writing, and that’s how much I wrote.

Other times they say: “Father, we’ve had two and a half.” This “half” is the beginning of the third.

The girls didn’t tell anyone that they had calls except their parents, priests, etc. when they asked.

From the third call they pass into the trance.

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Knowledge of Consciences

I saw that one of the girls was in a trance and she went on her knees directly towards one person. This person was leaving, but the girl, still on her knees, met him in the corner. “The girl smiled there and after a few moments, she left.” The impression that this scene left in the person who had followed the girl was so great that he knew what should be normal. The explanation that same person gave me was to tell me that they were anxious at the thought that he had not made good confessions and prayed to the Virgin and God like this: “If my past confessions were made well, let this girl come to me.” At the same time he finished this mental prayer, the girl, who was at the other end of the crowd, went towards this person on her knees and ignored the other people.

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On August 8th, María Dolores lost a rosary belonging to Fr. Luís, which was about the size of a medal. She lost it on the path from the Pines to the Church. When she realized she’d lost it, she asked the Virgin where it was, and she found it the next day.

On August 15th, one of the girls was carrying a rosary I had given her, and I noticed that the cross was missing when she returned it. Faced with the impossibility of finding it, since it could be in any part of the village, I decided to leave it. After 20 days, on September 5th, I asked the girls to question the Virgin about the cross of the rosary. They did. I heard the dialogue in which they asked and learned the exact place the little cross could be found. When the trance ended, they went immediately and without hesitation and found the cross on one of the roads, under a stone and in the mud.

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Another type of knowledge

On one occasion the girls knelt in a state of trance and prayed an “Oh, My Jesús” before each person. When they arrived before a boy and a small girl, around 7 years old, they prayed a Salve instead of an “Oh, My Jesus.”

One of the seers blessed a group of people but did not include one of them. This person was sad. The pastor asked the child when she was in the normal state why she had not blessed the person. The girl responded that the Virgin had told her that he was the only person who had not made the sign of the cross in the morning. He proved that this was true by asking the group, and it was.

A good person who had come and was indifferent to what they saw, gave a third person a crucifix so that he could give it to the girls and they could give it to the Vision to kiss. All of this was during the trance. The scene lasted two or three minutes. This third person passed it into the hands of the girl and she gave it to the Vision to kiss. The third person reached out his hand to take the crucifix from the girl, but she made a brisk movement and passed her arm over her shoulders and gave the crucifix to the owner with her back to him. He was visibly emotional.

A woman asked them to ask the Virgin if her husband believed in God. The response was: “Yes, he believes in God. He believes very little in the Virgin, but he will believe.” The husband of this woman was Protestant and lived in Madrid.

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Knowledge of people

In the different cases I have given news on, I put in continuation one that I have witnessed myself.

1st—On September 4th, at night, my brother arrived in Garabandal. He came from America. When he arrived, two of the girls welcomed us: Jacinta and María Dolores. I told them that my brother had come from America to see them. While we were talking, Conchita came in a state of trance. She entered into Ceferino’s house, came in front of us and blessed herself. She went up to the first floor—while still in a state of trance—and there she responded to the questions the other girls asked her.

“Who has come?”

“Fr. Andreu and one of his brothers.”

“Where has he come from?”

“From Caracas—Where is that?—Oh, there is one here and another there. This one is blond.”

According to the facts we have, Conchita did not know that Fr. Andreu had come from Caracas even though it was possible that he had come from America, nor did she know that he was blond.

When I asked later, she responded that the Virgin had told her.

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Here is a fragment from a Vision on August 8:

She went to make the sign of the cross but her hand was impeded. (They were holding her hand firmly). As you want—as you order—I don’t have more—we haven’t given any proof and the people don’t believe—if you want, at the time you want, I’ll go—I don’t know, but since I want to please you, I don’t want to know—I never thought—when you want and what you want—the same you give me to go to all sides now—(where she’d had apparitions). Because we throw stones and some believe but others don’t want to believe us—I heard some people say that it was a sickness that we had—that the more the people are pleased with us, the more we’ll do it—they say that we’re bad.