Fr. Ramon Andreu's Notes: Part Two, Post 6

7th Diary

August 1, 1961—Third Vision

Summary:

Third vision—they offered medals and stones. They said: “Caracas.” They held the Child. They showed a paper that had the lyrics of the songs to St. Michael. Mari Cruz took the crowns on the balcony.

August 1, 1961

Third Vision:

It took place at 3:45 in the afternoon. In order to give a more complete report of this Vision I’ve transcribed Fr. Luís’ notes and combined them with Fr. Cipriano Abad’s notes as well as those of Fr. Andrés Pardo. I’ve added clarifications and convenient additions to them since I was also a witness of this vision.

“After 2:15 we were together, when we went up to follow the girls. They waited there playing with the public. At 3:44 Jacinta entered the Vision, then Loli after a second.

They showed rosaries, offered them, and gave medals to be kissed. They asked for two kisses. They offered stones to be kissed and said:

“For Victoriano, for Amelia, for Ricardo, for Francisco, for Severiano, this one. This one for that one, for this priest’s brother. This is for the brother. For Ceferino. For Miliuca. For María Jesús.”

Loli crossed her hands in front of her chest. She moved her white fingers erratically.

Note: On this occasion, the white fingers like this came from having her fingers interlaced in her two hands and squeezing. Other times, she held her hands lazily.

J: “Should we pray a station? Loli was in front and I was behind. This one was for the wealthy man and this one (she gave a stone). I don’t know who it is for. Oh! Where? Where is this priest? In the Canary Islands, I was going to say—how, how? This in—I don’t know. You said it. Caracas! (One of the people in the road had said this in a low voice). I know that it was something about the Canary Islands or Caracas.”

Note: This scene impressed everyone present because the allusion was that Fr. Cipriano Abad had come from Caracas and that he was going to return there. This was the exact reference. The girl struggled to remember the name of the city. One of the people present said something to another person in a low voice. All of these words began upon arriving and hearing the girls. However, the girls didn’t catch it and continued struggling to find the name without succeeding. Several seconds passed while a person begged of them: “You say it.” There was a silence in which they were listening, the two at once, while they smiled, pronouncing with extraordinary clarity the word “Caracas.” This impressed the people because they “saw” like the girls “heard” this word from the Vision. At the same time they were accused of hearing it at the same time.

“Her name is Valeriana, but they call her Vale. Severino and Ceferina went to eat and didn’t return.”

“I think I’ll bring a medal.”

J: “Oh! You’ll bring the Child now, will you leave him with me a little? Now, will you leave him with me?” (She gestured to take him and give two kisses). “Do you want him, Loli?” (Loli took him).

Note: When they take the Child, we always observe a gesture of receiving through the movement of the arms upon feeling the weight. First they go down a little and then they rise up a little.

“This is your song, St. Michael. Bring him so that…”

J: “Put the lyrics for you. Like this.”

“Francís wrote it.”

Note: During the time that we were at the Pines, he wrote the lyrics to sing to St. Michael. They showed it to the Virgin. Because of this they said to reverse the lyrics. They all manipulated it without stopping looking at the Vision.

“We were going to put the glasses on. They were the student’s and the priest’s—should we take them off?”

Note: This allusion refers to the sun glasses. One pair belonged to Fr. Andrés Pardo, and the other belonged to Fr. Ramón. They had left them with the illusion that they made them and in the middle of winning the confidence of the girls to obtain a response to the questions that they made.

“They sing to St. Michael. They bless themselves and make the sign of the cross as though they’re seeing who did it. They pray a Station. Loli leads it with the new form of the Hail Mary. Loli gets confused during the second Our Father, when she forgets to say the Gloria. She passes her hand over her eyes. They don’t move. They have prayed six Our Fathers. Then they pray to the Guardian Angel. Then they pray a Salve to Our Lady of Mount Carmel. Then they pray a Creed to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. They bless themselves and make the sign of the cross again.

J: “I’m going to take another stone for Fr. Valentín; he told me that the other was very small.”

“Don’t go.”

J: “Loli, give me the crown, Loli. How does it look on me? It’s large on me. Now the Child’s. It won’t go any lower. Loli made a drawing of a Priest.”

Note: These sentences, as in all of them that I cite from dialogues such as this one, are not pronounced one after the other, but have pauses, sometimes very long pauses. The allusion to the drawing of the priest refers to the time that we were in the Pines before this vision and Loli painted a picture on a paper which she said was Fr. Ramón. I saved this picture on the paper that the girl painted. Jacinta alludes to this in her sentence.

Loli’s face seemed to be of stone. They passed hands in front of her face and she didn’t blink. At 4 there was total silence. They looked fixedly. They passed hands again and she didn’t blink. Loli withdrew her hands into her chest. Jacinta had her arms crossed. Loli almost lost her balance. Jacinta and Loli blessed themselves and made the sign of the cross as though seeing who did it.

At 4:04 Jacinta said: “Oh, she left.” The Vision ended.

The document that Fr. Luís combined with Fr. Andrés Pardo’s notes and Fr. Cipriano Abad’s notes ends with these words. Fr. Luís’s, Fr. Andrés Pardo’s, and Fr. Ramón’s notebooks and notes were like this as of August 1st.

Fr. Ramon Andreu's Notes: Part One, Post 6

In another interview with the girls they also asked some questions with the desire to obtain descriptive facts about what they saw. This time there were also three girls: Mari Cruz, Mari Loli, and Jacinta. It was July 31st or August 1st.

P—“And how does she appear?”

R—“She appears on her feet, on a wreath or in the air. Always on her feet, like this, near.” (Makes a gesture).

P—“Había muchos ángeles?”

R—“Había cinco ángeles con San Miguel.”

P—“Are there many angels?”

R—“There are five angels including St. Michael.”

P—“Como lo sabéis?”

R—“Ella nos dijo que era la Virgen (Reina) de los Angeles.”

P—“How do you know?”

R—“She told us that she was the Virgin (Queen) of the Angels.”

From these questions, as from other questions that they asked the girls on different occasions, we can obtain an approximate description of the Virgin that they see, as with the Angel or the Child. I put in summary the facts that they make concrete and I have to combine:

The Archangel

It is the first of the figures that they see. He appears to be about nine years old. He doesn’t carry weapons. They can’t see his feet because they are covered by a robe. He has wings that fall to the ground. The wings are a rosy color. The robe is blue and so is the mantle. The hair is long, and grows from the top like a mane. The Angel’s hair is different from the Virgin’s.

Generally, he smiles and puts his hand on the girls’ heads with a certain frequency and shook it a little in an affectionate salute.

The Virgin

The description that the girls made of the Virgin is one of great beauty. She is about 18 years old, and very tall. She is always standing. She held her hands in different positions, according to whether she brought the Child. Frequently, she held her hands with her palms toward the girls. Her hair was black and long, and fell in waves almost to her waist. Her eyebrows were the same color. Her dress is white with white flowers. It seems that she has something like a sash on her side. The mantle is blue. The adornment of her head is complete with a crown that is secured to her head like a diadem. Sometimes she gives this crown to the girls; it has small, brilliant stars.

The girls see the Virgin from the front, like other people. If they move from one place to another, they ordinarily do it without moving their feet, and the Virgin stays in front of the girls. The Virgin turned around on one occasion to show the girls her dress. The wind moved her hair sometimes.

The Child

He is so small that he isn’t even a year old. He doesn’t speak but he does laugh. His robe covers his feet. On occasion, he is given to the girls to hold. The Virgin, the Archangel, and the Child have all kissed the girls and have received kisses from them.

They Offer Stones

Almost from the beginning of this month of July it has been observed how the girls take little stones from the ground and lift them up so that the vision will kiss them. After this they hide them in their sleeves, their pockets, or place them in groups on the ground. These stones, upon being offered to be kissed, are dedicated to certain people. The girls say this when they offer them. “This is for Andrés—this one is for Milán.” After they return them to the person they are meant for, the trance ends.

The Tablets

Two tablets exist in two boxes on which the girls write their names and add some sign. They correspond to this month of July. Upon seeing the girls, the Virgin stood up on a stone and they wanted to have a weaker pedestal. They brought two boxes that Mr. Ceferino had in his house. On these two boxes the girls wrote their names in small letters in red. They also wrote the name “Carmel” alluding to what the Virgin had said, that she was Our Lady of Mt. Carmel. They added a picture of a rosary and some knives that they joined.

Kisses

It’s normal upon finishing the trance that the girls say goodbye by giving kisses on the cheeks and that they offer their own cheeks to be kissed. It frequently happens that they add a hand gesture to say goodbye then bless themselves or make the sign of the cross.

Medals

From the first days they came together, the pious and the curious, and they gave holy objects to the girls for the Virgin to kiss. The girls did this, admitting a number of rosaries that didn’t surpass the limit that the pastor put up on some occasions. With the motive of giving these religious objects to be kissed like this, also when they made it with stones, we observed that they frequently recognized objects that had already been kissed. The people made some tests in which they gave a medal or a rosary to one of the girls so she would give it to the vision to kiss. Days later they would give the same object to another girl and when she would offer it to be kissed we would hear her say, as a response to something the Virgin said: “Oh! It has already been kissed! Well, kiss it again.”